It's none of her business, but there's a fleeting pang of something like envy that she barely takes heed of. Her own parents had left her with nothing at all in the way of protection, and they never would -- never mind that she'd insist herself beyond needing it from anyone else.

At his recounting, she nods soberly. There's nothing untrue about it, and there's no way to deny the effect that it had had on both men. But she still feels as though further context is warranted.

"He said it was a vision. He saw a future that Ben -- Kylo -- would cause, and in a moment of fear he thought to avert it. I don't believe he would've harmed him. He told me he regretted it instantly, but Kylo lashed out, destroying Luke's Jedi school and killing the other students."

She doesn't know that that last part isn't actually the clear truth of the matter, though she's always gotten the sense that it was an instinctual reaction gone wrong rather than the massacre it seemed. She can't believe Kylo had any intentional cruelty in him toward the students who had been his friends -- not back then, anyway. Not before he'd been with Snoke for long enough to shape his darkness into a weapon.